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Australian scientific discoveries have improved people’s lives and made the economy more productive – so why is the CSIRO being forced to shed workers again?
On this episode of Follow the Money, Matt Grudnoff and Ebony Bennett discuss the latest job cuts at the CSIRO, why this is a missed opportunity as researchers leave the United States, and why science investment matters for productivity.
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Guest: Matt Grudnoff, Senior Economist, the Australia Institute // @mattgrudnoff
Host: Ebony Bennett, Deputy Director, the Australia Institute // @ebonybennett
Show notes:
If the Government’s top priority is productivity, slashing the CSIRO budget does not make sense by Matt Grudnoff, The Point (November 2025)
The Wage Price Index (WPI) shows wages are up. So why doesn’t it feel that way? by Matt Grudnoff, The Point (November 2025)
Who needs world-changing, life-saving science when you’ve got rugby league? by Ebony Bennett, The Canberra Times (November 2025)
Theme music: Pulse and Thrum; additional music by Blue Dot Sessions
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