Australians are travelling to the USA less and less
It’s been pretty clear for nearly a year now that Australians have taken a look at what Trump and his ICE goons are doing and have decided that the USA isn't the place for them.
Wed 17 Sep 2025 15.30 AEST

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Former Senator Doug Cameron calls on the federal government to reject “warmongering” and abandon the AUKUS deal.
On this episode of Follow the Money, former Labor Senator for New South Wales Doug Cameron speaks about the Australia-US relationship, the “madness” of AUKUS, and how the federal government can prepare for peace – not war.
The 2025 Laurie Carmichael Lecture was delivered on Wednesday 10 September and presented by the Carmichael Centre at the Australia Institute’s Centre for Future Work.
You can sign our petition calling on the Australian Government to launch a parliamentary inquiry into AUKUS.
After America: Australia and the new world order by Emma Shortis and Dead Centre: How political pragmatism is killing us by Richard Denniss are available now via the Australia Institute website.
Guest: Doug Cameron, former Labor Senator for New South Wales // @DougCameron51
Host: Ebony Bennett, Deputy Director, the Australia Institute // @ebonybennett
Show notes:
Australian Sovereignty and the Path to Peace – 2025 Laurie Carmichael Lecture, the Centre for Future Work (September 2025)
After America, the Australia Institute
Polling – AUKUS, the Australia Institute (July 2025)
Address at Chautauqua, N.Y. by Franklin D Roosevelt (August 1936)
Theme music: Pulse and Thrum; additional music by Blue Dot Sessions
We’d love to hear your feedback on this series, so send in your questions, comments or suggestions for future episodes to podcasts@australiainstitute.org.au.
It’s been pretty clear for nearly a year now that Australians have taken a look at what Trump and his ICE goons are doing and have decided that the USA isn't the place for them.
It isn’t always easy to keep up with what’s happening in the US. “Shorter America” is a series where Dr Emma Shortis loops you in on what’s going on in America and shares news and analysis that you can trust.