Wed 23 Sep 2026 17.02 AEST
Mike Bowers
Despite dire warnings from the scientific community and Australia’s Pacific neighbours, the federal government isn’t getting the message.
On this episode of Follow the Money, Tuvalu Minister for Climate Change and Environment Dr Maina Vakafua Talia and Canadian independent Senator Dr Rosa Galvez join us to discuss the need to phase out fossil fuels.
This episode was recorded live on Wednesday 16 September at the Australia Institute’s Politics in the Pub event in Canberra.
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Guest: The Hon Dr Maina Vakafua Talia, Minister for Climate Change and Environment for the Government of Tuvalu
Guest: The Hon Senator Dr Rosa Galvez, Independent Senator for Québec (Bedford), Canada // @senrosagalvez
Host: Louise Morris, Head of Fossil Fuel Transition, the Australia Institute // @louisemorris
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Show notes:
Transition Away from Fossil Fuels: A roadmap for Australia by Hamdi Jama, Rod Campbell & Louise Morris, the Australia Institute (September 2026)
Australia and Canada can learn from each other on climate if we separate action from declaration by Rosa Galvez, Guardian Australia (September 2026)
Albanese’s Climate Week speech left out the numbers that matter most by Louise Morris, The Point (September 2026)
Limiting Overshoot – Navigating exceedance of 1.5°C and pathways towards return, United Nations Overshoot Programme (September 2026)
Theme music: Pulse and Thrum; additional music by Blue Dot Sessions
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